Dave Smith: Serve Secrets to Success

0:00:10.1 Dave Smith: I'm Dave Smith here with my befriend and highly experienced how you qualify, Jack Broudy, and we are so excited to be sharing some information with all of you as we progress through this program of various progressions to reaching what I call in an advanced Foundation, basically the principle of allowing a player to reach their full potential based on athleticism, desire. Dedication and all those other intangibles. So Jack and I wanna jump in here. We're gonna be talking about the tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve, so why you kinda start us off with some of your ideas as far as how we're gonna start this off to tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve...

0:00:49.9 Jack Broudy: Well, thanks Dave, and it's always fun to see you. It was great to see you talk in a little tennis, talk a little music, it's great, we have a lot of common and make some plans for the future here, which will let you all know about soon enough. Yeah, well, advance tennis Foundation, I really love that term, and I love the way we title this to success. If the advanced Foundation is too much for you, how about success? 'cause I think success is a great word, and it's under-utilized, so what... Today we're talking about the sermon, I guess, as usual day, we're gonna talk about a little bit of technique, I'm gonna be jumping in and jump in on you and all that stuff when it comes to technique, but also about how to get a lot of people engaged in practicing and learning their circus, remember, I've always been a private lesson, God, a technician, so to speak, and you have always been... Not only I know you do price, but I know team is your thing and theirs... I know when I was taught, I was told the ConAgra put their act behind your back, start tracing you toss, and of course, the toss as fly all over.

0:02:06.3 Jack Broudy: And this is the first thing people have to battle with, Is the TAs and the comp mental tennis grip, and I can tell you, I remember a very well, a little quick story. When I was 11 years old, and I really are 10, maybe 10, I was getting into tennis. I was leaving baseball. That's what I was, I was a baseball player, I knew every stat. But anyway, I would love baseball, and I was getting into tennis, and my coach back in the 70s... Right. He gives me the continental grip might have been late 60, we act. And he gives me a basket of bottles, I watch you walk off the tennis court in a half-hour lesson, he goes for a smoke and up of coffee, and he's on the phone with a couple of... Come in and I see him in the window and the indoor tennis courts, and I'm literally hitting every tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve into the side fence, I'm barely touching the ball, and I remember distinctly crying by myself out there on the corner, like I'm all alone, so the comment of grip in the toss really can get to people, so I think that might be the first place we really address is what the conventional teaching is for the Continental in the task, and what we can do to be more successful to a more advanced foundation, so to speak.

0:03:26.4 Jack Broudy: And that's really where I'd like to go today. Eating ahead and talk about a whole group, because the one thing I've never really done.

0:03:38.1 Dave Smith: One thing is, and I highly recommend every pro become a high school tennis coach at some point because there is another vehicle allows a pro, a coach who knows his stuff to actually have number one, a broad spectrum of player abilities from beginner to have the call with you, train either gotten good players in, are you trained them to be done, highly skilled. And the other thing is, you get to compare your progression over the course of usually four years, if you have a gross or boys that come out as freshmen, you actually see where as pros at a club... Yeah, you might get a kid that stays in your program for many years, but for the most part of now I've got... I average 50 gives every year, and I keep 99% of them for four years, if I can get them as a freshman... Sure, I have an actual objective and almost a quantitative value of improvement of seeing my 50 players improve as a group, as well as my 50 players improve compared to other teams over the course of a year after year after year. And there's no question, our success speaks for itself, but looking at to tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve when you do teach the cotton telegraph from the get-go, but we also understand it's not a familiar driver, now, are we gonna abandon the Connell group just because it's unfamiliar? Or do we train the cotton allegro? So it becomes familiar, I get really tired.

0:05:12.5 Dave Smith: I'm sorry, if you're a pro that caters to the familiarity or the tenured level and say, Well, we're gonna do what it's natural to you, you're basically getting a player who will be good at becoming back, gonna be better. And so if you avoid the continental grip, they're never gonna master...

0:05:31.8 Jack Broudy: I think we met on this last week when we talked about the colleagues...

0:05:35.1 Dave Smith: Exactly, so you've gotta train skills using drills, exercises and processes that allow a player to be Tonga, unfamiliar, familiar. Make the uncomfortable. Become comfortable. Abandon it or avoiding it. I have a phrase in my book now that is pretty deep, and it says If you avoid that what you're trying to achieve, you're going to achieve that, which you're trying to avoid...

0:06:01.4 Jack Broudy: I like that. And.

0:06:02.4 Dave Smith: So you think about that if you abandon or avoid the coterm, you're never going to... You're actually promoting something that makes it even more difficult to change, so we train our players in the condo drip through a lot of simple drill bounces up ones down, Mount slice balances, caches, I like your across, where you catch it and hit it over everything that helps. A player game, functionality and feel. So that's gonna be my first comment is, we teach eight-year-olds to 80-year-olds called, when I'm gonna say within two days to three days, they have a pretty good feel. And you mentioned something that was very Toma, especially for PROS that teach in Eastern for hanger up, and now we're gonna teach to come up, where does the ball go? You set it yourself, jack, it curves to the far left, if you're right-handed and you're like, Well, this doesn't work, and what do they do? They go right back to the page, water grab, flat, tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve for success. Well, that success is very limited because you're basically a gravity reliable... What does that mean? Enchanting hard enough to clear them, that soft enough, that ground and bring us all down, and the men, you swing harder, you can't get it in very often spend...

0:07:27.0 Dave Smith: As you know, as well as I know, most of our listeners know is why we had to me ground scopes because we have to make them all brought past or the ground, the alone we can hit the malar serving is no different. And I'll let you jump in, I'm sorry to cater what I find, we have clubs around the area and other places of the country were pros and teaching a flat tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve first, and in fact, I was not... Teach you the Spencer, I radically the same plug, teach massive tops and ground stores. And my students have come, me going, Oh, our pros teachers to have flat service like... Well, did they teach you the hip top to growers? Oh yeah, juice tops. I'm like, Why would you not... What cops been on a curve or Tiger slice or hybrid tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve for the same reason, why would you teach something that's flat and has limitations to speed, when you're teaching tops and Brownwood, it makes no Seif, you're dead. It's a disservice, it's really a disservice to your client because they're not there for you to make them feel good, necessary that are for you to teach them for them to learn...

0:08:36.4 Jack Broudy: Absolutely gonna avoid it because of the lack of immediate gratification... You're not doing anyone any favors.

0:08:44.3 Dave Smith: No, no. And it's a false sense of security. And if the student, the parents are ignorant, they're gonna go, Oh wow, look, my kids hitting the served at four miles an hour, okay, now, trying to tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve 20 miles or 40 miles are suddenly the ball won't go in because they don't have the right spin pattern or in the right path to create that spin that we're talking about, and so one of the things that we teach right from the get-go, I don't have my video on now, this is just a little sophomore boy and it's learning to get a ticker, but we teach a lot of aspects of the swing path to get across the ball, get that feeling of that accelerating across the ball, this is a big check tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve on, you see that really exaggerated what we call the dirty diaper and contact to get them to feel a template getting ahead of the the hand, because the Taurus, and we see players, and you know as well as they bring the hand and first lagging the racket behind, and then they pull their arm down and then they make contact. I have a system of identifying people who do that, look at their shit, they're gonna have black and blue mark what right does, or their release is down like their way and they can't slow the rocket down, they're already hit the ball.

0:10:05.8 Jack Broudy: He did that a couple of times in the 12 and under. I think I have my shit a couple of times in the 12s, all you have to do is ask players I've hit with an Eastern forehand grip.

0:10:16.1 Dave Smith: A minute. They sing hard, have you ever hit yourself the light, my son, limit. Well, you and I demonstrated to tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve on my needs to show if you do it right, your racket should touch the grant, if you do it wrong, you're gonna break the rack and on the ground, I usually tell truth, if you're gonna demonstrate the SER underneath and you have your kids do it, do it out on some grasses, they will hit the ground if they do not know how to get to what we call.

0:10:44.0 Jack Broudy: A... I'm glad you mentioned the knee thing, 'cause I didn't put that on my videos, I have that of course in my school, but I didn't put that on for today's talk, but I should have... I also do the nothing, but it's funny, I saw on Facebook this week, a guy pro doing, here's a tip, and that on as he says, tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve from your knee, he doesn't proto tell you how the stances... His stance on his knees, right, that funny thing, but he stands on his knees, he's directly facing the net, but the 45 degree... But he doesn't even mention it. So if you stand there and you're parallel to the fence, or if you're parallel to the net, you're a flop straight down, but you have to be at this 45... Absolutely, to make it happen, but the pros, they just go get on your knees, and I really think that's one of the day... First, I'm glad you brought that up. That's one of the first things, make sure when they get on their knees, They're facing the right direction or they won't have any luck of...

0:11:44.1 Dave Smith: Exactly, and that goes back to the grip, because if you don't prepare the student, that's from the tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve angle, because the condyle grip has the angle on the racket here rather than here, the balls naturally gonna go, and these pros that say all the time, Oh, I will just change their grip later, it's not as a group change, it is a position, change a contact point, sweater thing changes when you change the grip or have to change otherwise, it won't be very successful, so... You're.

0:12:16.5 Jack Broudy: Absolutely right. So the other thing about the content grip is, and no one talks about this site, the continental grip was made for the 45, think about... Absolutely right, if you're facing this direction and your racket is angled this way, it's gonna go into the tennis court, so the 45 degrees is literally built for... The comment, grip psoas.

0:12:41.2 Dave Smith: Is an important aspect, and if you don't address it, either doing from your needs or just any aspect, you will indeed discover problems, I guess you could say. And I was trying to find... It actually got a picture of me on my knees. Serving, but I can't seem to find it right now, but these are all factors that... There are so many variables that must be addressed when a player or coach is teaching different aspects of the sport, that if you leave one out, and I tell players both in golf from tennis, there are... You can do seven things, right, one thing wrong, and the result will usually be failure in terms of the outcome of the shop, so we cannot neglect and we have to also advise our players that if you are not addressing all these things and you can pretty much expect your student to have some failure, but they should understand that that failure is part of the learning process, and I really stress is... I tell players, in fact, I'll tell a player who hit a shot misses the ball completely, perhaps, that you use the right stroke, the right technique, the way grip, and I'll say That was a great swing, I don't care or the boom, we can always change the timing in the AM, but if the stroke is wrong or they're us changing the stroke to accommodate the aim, well, you're gonna have a lot of problems to...

0:14:13.2 Dave Smith: Some stroke is always gonna be changing, you're never gonna have two strokes and say.

0:14:17.0 Jack Broudy: Well, you're gonna limit your progress, I mean, period, you're gonna really say it... You know how people say in tennis, they level off a reef at a very low level...

0:14:26.3 Dave Smith: Exactly stay... We call it stagnation, and I see it all the time in players who have been taught, and these same players may have very well past my players up initially or meet my players initially. Sure, but the funny thing is, the players... My players who learn the right technique may lose initially, and then they pass those players up, and then I hear please players tell the coaches all the time, Why can't we play like that coach or that team that just coached me day, why can't we be that good and the coach, of course, always an eval says, Well, they get a lot of good players into their program... No, we don't... We train our players to be really good, and this is a 11-year-old girl behind, this is out my daughter, and this is going to girls you out 10... 05, Minerva, 12 years of age. Wow. And again, you can see the simplicity of your 45, the perfect body position, what we're looking for prior to the labs of Thracian, thrashing, thrashier, her Raines developed and not... Again, the small girl, not very big, who could tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve as all my players can do extremely well.

0:15:50.3 Dave Smith: So obviously, we want to encourage this, I just realized that when I was... I can't remember I told you that story, that my coach problem could have fixed me if he said Well, 'cause I just figured out what it was right now, the reason everything rented the left fence is because obviously with this Continental grip, I was trying very hard to keep, I was opening up facing the net and everything, all he had to say was just stay at the 45 and the content on the grip would have worked, and I wouldn't have had such a tough time. So a simple fix, just like staying lined up, you know, Dave, a simple fix could really help someone with this grip... Right, absolutely. I've just frozen my screen.

0:16:40.0 Jack Broudy: So what I wanted to show you, and I really would like your opinion on this, I'm gonna move over here. But what I do is to get the content on doping in these two and beginners, they've never played tennis, they've never had a lesson and they've only done on the tennis court and goofed around, what I have them do is I found in the whole directed, I'm gonna grab a stick here and hold her back in here to start with... Right, right with their fingers behind the strings like that, you see, and that is the comment grip, and then I really did not like... I do not like the way tennis was taught away, they have... You start here and toss, I've always found that the toss and the hit are connected together, and the toss comes off the body, it's not just a leverhulme Your Own, it actually flows off of your hips, believe it or not, the case... So what I do right from the get-go, is I have them start here really with their fingers behind the stream, and then slowly slide down, and I do it over about five, 10 minutes, depending on the athlete, and by the time they get to the grid, they really, they feel it and they understand it, and it's quite simple, so I just have them do the figure eight, whether it's on the board or not, it doesn't matter, and I have them toss the ball, I'm glad we're starting from the beginning here, and I have them tossed the ball from a hand to hand like this, just to get this connection of the two sides of the body and how they work together.

0:18:12.0 Jack Broudy: See. So see what the girls are doing. These two really have never played tennis, but you'll see they're getting their service, like money in about two minutes, about two minutes, when we start right here, this is real time, and then we switch, and when we get to the racket, we have the choke-up and we have them continue this and then we just toss into it, so I don't know if you've used this technique before, what...

0:18:40.9 Dave Smith: Number one, I am a very firm believer in rhythm and putting things together as quick as you can and get players feeling. The thing we have to understand with a lot, especially girls, because a lot of girls never throw a football or baseball or friends be sometimes even when we're talking about some of the back room components, so we're dealing with players that are very Novos in body and muscle coordination in turn, putting these movements together, if we have a player who's learned to throw, usually we're ahead of the game a little bit, but for the thing I teach first is the SLICE feel because hitting a ball with spin, it feels different than you need them all flat, and every beginner who does not have any idea what sin does is going to hit the ball flat because that's all they know. Well, I'm gonna live in a very linear swing, very straight, very flat, and yeah, you can give a servant really quick, we want them to feel that breathing, agree 100% that putting together that sliding action or feeling, we first teach the brush... Actually holding the ball, like my first is a valve, and brushing next screams across their ball first, that we want them to feel that we raise that up and do it up here a little higher and then even higher, so that they're starting to feel that connection of the rack and going to cross the ball rather than at the ball, so I always compared to tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve in a simplistic terms, flat ser, the screens come at the ball, slivers in Spencer across the ball, there's always gonna be a component of forward movement of the racket starts behind the head.

0:20:35.9 Dave Smith: So I never even teach prenatal, I've never even used the word Croatian. It's an automatic, every single player will probate their racket, if you teach them to brush, they will drown, and the players were to probate in prairie almost every time and in the wall, very, very flat, and they don't get the feel of the brush, and so again, I've top 3500, more than 3500 plants. And I've never even used the word, except sometimes it be explaining what actually happens. I'll tell a player, Bristol, your arm, naturally do what I call internal rotation of the forearm, which is a bigger word of probation, and I say, just work on the spend and every single player without an exception, that will coronation their form at the right time. And I used to work at a club in Wilmette, it was a very prolific Club, and all they did was talk about probation were Eastland could not feel the spin, the carving action, the brushing action, the across the ball action, so they never produced a top level player and they have been there for 20 years before I got there. Never had a State Champion. I was there for two and a half years.

0:21:56.8 Dave Smith: We had 22 state champions and two and a half years, they had zero before that now, it's not just to tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve, but I'm gonna tell you, there are a lot of things they did that were prohibitive of developing a more prolific group of players that became what I call reaching their potential. So everything you were talking about is exactly what we do. I emphasize probably a little more than you see, this is across the ball, because I know the part, once I get them feeling that motion, then there are certain things that may or may not happen automatically, but we can correct or add to that I don't like... Do you use word correction, but we add to that swing past, so whether you start in the racket drop or collapse position when you start, just appear to stealing the brush, as long as they're starting to feel that spend, you're gonna have a plan of... That understands what... And this is another thing, how many kids, and again, girls are notorious 'cause they didn't draw football and didn't throw her bond baseball, they don't understand what the spinning ball does in the air, and little time, obviously very self.

0:23:04.1 Dave Smith: And the boys or girls. So we want them to feel it. Then I tell them, watch what the ball does. I don't care where the ball goes, I want them just to watch how it curves or I'm a right hand or getting a slice tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve out much it curves to the left are first tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve that we teach every beginner is a slicer for that reason, we tell my cost the reaction.

0:23:28.1 Jack Broudy: I think this nice Serum is the most under-utilized and probably is the most underrated tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve a look at some of the great tennis stars, whether it was Ken Rose wall or Marcelo RIOS. I mean, these guys lived off their life... Sampras had an incredible slice. Absolutely, absolutely.

0:23:50.0 Dave Smith: When I was tensions dot com for about 10 years, there was a good study, Joni dealt in a great study on ball rotation among top players, I remember it well, and it was very revealing, and I think he used a 1000 frames a second video camera high, very very high-tech camera to do very good about that, and he could actually count the ball rotations of a ball because of this camera, and the funniest thing was at 130 miles an hour, the average service speed of SAN prakrit cod Marshall of other outreach, 1500 rpms of spend 1500 rotations per minute on their 130 mile cervera had the fastest full rotation, 1003rd at 2800 rpm, and that's far from flat folks, there's no such... I tell my kids, there's no such thing as a flattering.

0:24:56.8 Jack Broudy: Actually, I tell them It's a dummy servitude.

0:25:01.9 Dave Smith: When I hear these commentators go, Wow, he hit that flair big time, like they did not hit a flat, even John is 6-11 hits with a lot of spin on a 13540 Mile House, even at his hike, he still has to have some degree of spin, so that ball still has some art, because at 140 miles in the that ball's gonna be a frozen rope if you don't have some spend to go with it. And so you're in.

0:25:30.4 Jack Broudy: There were some study we... Back when you're old enough to remember the things... I can remember who's done at Stanford, I think... I'm sure it was done at Stanford, and they said that you had to be about... I think it was deep foot too, to hit a flat tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve.

0:25:45.0 Dave Smith: And a brave said it or.

0:25:48.2 Jack Broudy: Something like that, a.

0:25:49.0 Dave Smith: Pretty high number now.

0:25:50.3 Jack Broudy: Yeah. To get the these, you have to have a trajectory is to the boosters and then fall... We've been on the big tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve, you can't just get down into the tennis court, it's not like you're standing on the bed and just smacking it down, you're... You're 70 or whatever, 40 feet away from the dad, and you're probably about 90 feet away from the end of the service line and you've got to put spin on the ball, so... Absolutely, yeah, like I said, I guess the big difference is I do talk a lot about spin, and when we were younger, they talked about the clock, right, the 3 o'clock and 7 o'clock, and given the haircut for the kicker, but I really... One of my issues has always been that people try to isolate parts of your body to teach, to tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve how we're all gonna practice our top... Well, you'll never get a good task this way because it's unrealistic, and if you start that way, my God, How nervous would you be to start stagnant. Why do you think the pros move... Like baseball players, right? They're all like this when they're getting ready or they're bouncing the BI, and they're sort of fidgeting like a golfer or a baseball player before they tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve, because they wanna get into this flow motion with both sides of their body, so I guess that's a big thing.

0:27:06.5 Jack Broudy: And this to behind me is the same type of thing is I just toss and catch... I know, I'm sure you do this for where you just toss and cash, but you see how that involves both sides of the body in doing this one little move, I mean, if you try to toss and catch like this, that would be very difficult, but if you just pass the ball back and forth like that, it's much easier. So I'm big on keeping both sides of the body of... Symmetrical and fluid. Absolutely, and keeping your head in the middle.

0:27:41.4 Dave Smith: Right. Well, creating that anger momentum that we talk a lot about in any ratio where there's a rotational movement is say, We're probably different in one respect, I do break the tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve in terms of incremental components, for one reason, I want them to isolate one movement, so if they don't isolate men. Often times, a player's muscle memory or pre-conceived motion will override what you're trying to teach, so Nestle. So there's both ways to work the problem, of course is if a player is not finding the swing path, for example, or the contact point, you may have to isolate it. But here's the neat thing. We do exactly what you just talked about. Once they have these isolation, now we coordinate all of it together, so it becomes a seamless movement, which is obviously the goal of that aspect, so if a kid or a young lady or boy is not hitting up the inside of the ball for a kicker or outside to through the ball first, a hybrid life service, we may isolate and often to isolate certain aspects of that, and then one thing I know from teaching 3500 players is Every player involved, we do the same thing, isolate the swing, and then once the player starts to master that without...

0:29:06.3 Dave Smith: What we call unconscious competence, meaning, they don't have to think about that part, or it happens automatically. Every one of my players evolves into a very fluid pattern within the context of what we're trying to get them to achieve in terms of the swing path, the contact point, the body position to balance everything, and so I've never had this conversation with pain sister who was the graphical... And we were both speaking at a conference, and he was talking about cloning players. When I said, Well, hey, I've taught 3500 players were SENTAI the exact same way. I've never had two players, even identical twins, ever played exactly like... Because there's too much intrinsic personality, perception, strength, weakness of things that will override the mechanical aspects of learning a correct, several... A correct roster. So if you watch every... There's certain elements that are very individual, very unique to that, that's why... Joke of it, mimic Rafferty, every one of those players. But if you look at the foundation of the contact window and what the races doing on a forehand or a tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve, they're identical, same in the golf for... If you look at Jim Ferguson compared to Freddie Couples, there are very different swings, the from the moment, the downlink to contact to the follow, they're identical without an exception, without exception, because I cannot send the ball consistently without this area now fertile loop on his daisies, the figure eight, he's got a big...

0:30:56.8 Dave Smith: Fire's got a real big figure, which is very uncommon in the Gulf for the golf world is far more Ernie Els, Adam, who's the Ascott, who have just gorgeous, gorgeous swing. And my daughter is a classic example of that, and that shows you that individuality will still supersede the mechanics and you're teaching in terms of flow and creating a repeatable, reliable swing path, but if they haven't found those mechanics from prior to the hip to the hip to the after head, if those are not aligned and can be done on command, then you're gonna have a lot of variability in that in so... And that's where players lose the coconut in the continuity, and so why did players call their finite involved just like the picture behind me, my daughter finishing her golf Sonoran offer, she would hold her to... Has all pros do? Sure, if you look at better hitting them back in Valor, a back hand browser, he holds his finish, probably parenthood, but in the teaching modality, holding the finish has a distinctive finished to the stroke, so if we have a distinct of beginning point, whether it's a tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve and we go through the rituals, and we hold our finish afterwards, we have a beginning, middle, and end.

0:32:34.1 Dave Smith: That's now repeatable because we have these two in the beginning and then the same every time, this is why pros hold their finish and we train that in the valley, we train that on to tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve, we want them to hold their finish, obviously as they get more competitive, they can't take that extra time to hold their finish and be a potato like... But that is a training mechanism, that is why we've trained literally even my most robbers to become state races because the repeatable we allow to think about this phrase, repeatable, reliable swing path on command, that's what defines every good player, even unconventional players have that still a repeatable reliable, we pack on command, and if you cannot hold your finish, you're gonna have a different finish, which mean the stroke is probably gonna be slightly different every time you hit, and when you watch a pro hit, you'll see that finish, a momentary pause. Virtually on every shot, even though even at the high level, you'll see a very subtle pause and from a training standpoint, it's imperative, it's absolutely important that there is a distinctive beginning and into every shot, so that this repeatable aspect can be done on MAT and then so amazing how good Amin gets a mean for a target, whether it's a top mandrake over had to tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve when you have the same stroke happening every time.

0:34:10.3 Dave Smith: Now, Amy becomes real. You can aim a little more right, a little more left, because all you're changing is the body orientation were to a common and.

0:34:21.3 Jack Broudy: On the cereal you're really changing, it's not even the body so much at the 45, you can make the smallest of adjustment and go wide so that's what I find beautiful about making contact with 45, it's like imagine if you have a code like this and you try to balance a piece of paper on it, you can't... If it's a perfect 45 degrees come, you cannot balance a piece of paper on it because it would massage it like this, you can get all over and it's the same in contact with the 45, you take that point there and just the slightest movement and you're hitting three feet over here. Two feet over there. Right, that one thing I'll say about that, and I do have the Players free finishes on a lot of instances, but one of my favorite players back in the day was under... He did something like no one else, and probably 'cause he started so young with a heavy back, when he finished his back in, he would just come right in here to this again, and when he would finish his for in, he would always let me be... To come across like this.

0:35:29.7 Jack Broudy: So it was kind of this soon as he got on the tennis court, this was it, and then it never stopped. So he flowed right in from one stroke to the other, so he was one of those players were unlike a stance man, unlike John newcombe, finish like that. AAC was one of the first ones, maybe or two that had a sweeping finish that would come right back into their... I call it zero point. It would come right back into the zero point and there they are in IDL against...

0:36:04.5 Dave Smith: Because that's exactly where we move to now, we developed drills like the Fast mandrel where they're not cycling through the same shot over and over with that idea of that flu in motion, obviously they're hitting the same shot over and over, this is where the repeatable read did you see the repeatable reliable, these are all JV kids by the plant, these are not mere, let's grow on the black pecuniary, these kids are developing a rhythmic flow, what you just see like with her, she's not holding it, she's... No, no.

0:36:37.8 Jack Broudy: No. tennis serve lesson.

0:36:38.4 Dave Smith: I remember... And this is where a lot of people misunderstand it, we teach the whole finish so that this becomes possible, you cannot get to this point if the stroke is not repeatable and you can't get to a repeatable concept until the player understand the beginning and end. Once you develop that, Now you develop the rhythmic aspect of a flowing sweat, so you can say this is like a momentary pose, it's a split second pot, but it's the same... Look at her finish every time the raison, the same, exact Bob, same spot, same Lara. Now obviously, we're feeding the same shot, and right now we're not working on the phone, work in this to ON the repeatable Amy of a cross for Inside Out or inside in back end or for... So you're seeing the angles being developed, but that flow that you just described becomes so much more articulated and replicated when a player has developed this beginning in component because they can't... If they were changing the stroke, these drones would look different every single time they're hitting this ball, and we can see this if we look at it in a movement type of drill such as here, so now we see a movement to the ball, and again, I try to get them to hold their finish and drive that back to cation, you'll see that back leg come around a little prematurely at a...

0:38:13.5 Dave Smith: With a couple of your JDS, it comes... These are all JV here in the middle. You're seeing some of the JV boys over here hitting, but you see that back to trying to drive that toe down and we don't over-rotate, and this kit right here, I think over rotate, hope really got on him, but holding that back foot or kicking that back leg back, you saw Morgan right there, that that momentary pause on that, to drag, right there to drag, then the LEA does the brain step, and that's what we're trying to achieve, so even the JV girls here in the middle are learning to still move through the ball but dragon.

0:38:51.6 Jack Broudy: A, get us back on server though, because that... But the SER is gonna be the same concept, so behind me, see Roger here. Why did you take this step? Here's the other thing, you see that stemming takes a warm-up... See that, that is key. And I think especially to a good top, I don't know if you did charges before, but I've preached this now for about 15, 20 years after watching Roger or Indian Wells. I was watching Roger and he was 17 losing in the first round at the US Open, but there was a few things I noticed when he warmed up, 'cause I had heard about him as a junior, so I've been watching him forever, but when he warms up, he does what you would do in a... Throwing a baseball, it... He takes a stab and he goes like that, but he takes a step while he tosses, and what that does, once again, getting back to the SIR is what it does is it gets you to toss with your left tip if you're a writing so you can control your toss better. And that's another issue with the tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve that I find people have incredible difficulty, especially in a match, they'll cost three and four times...

0:40:06.7 Jack Broudy: Ossory, sorry, sorry. Catches, embarrassing to tell you the truth, and I think it's one of the many things that drives people from texts is, oh gosh, I don't wanna sit... You even get that with good players... Well.

0:40:22.6 Dave Smith: And I agree, I think anything, every player has certain patterns that are more difficult, the toss is definitely one of them... Do that task usually. Players who are focusing on their hand, Gerry lose control of the ball as a taste them, I say, toss up all of my hand, just close it from 80 feet a Layer, 6 feet away, and then to... And they're pretty close to hitting my hand and I said, Did you think of when to release the ball, then you think of how your hand was gonna move... No, I just toss it to your hand... Okay, I'm gonna tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve, just think of where in the air my hand is or where you want it possible, and they're like, Oh my gosh, I can pass it wherever I want them, because some of the kids and adults alike are so focused on how they hold the ball... Where do they toss it? From their hand. And this doesn't work for everybody, but boy, I've found when you move away from the mechanics of the hand toss, although I've talked about holding it like a wine glass or holding it in the call on over...

0:41:27.7 Dave Smith: Sometimes you have to adjust that, but when I started focusing on where in the air pretenders of Chef... Sure, and you're just gonna toss it onto that shelf, they're like, Oh... And I think that's a real good idea to remember that if you've got a player that's having trouble, the tass, in addition to your technique of giving them to gage that front foot to step and just feel, even though obviously that would be a football, but as a warm-up, that would be certainly another Methodism or tool to Titan.

0:42:04.0 Jack Broudy: I thought it was, when you go into the toss, you're rising up with his left hand, you have a tendency to lean back, and that's why the TAs goes behind you, and that's why you fix it by taking that step, because now you're stepping, you're stepping out as you toss and your left hip is actually coming off the left hip like that into the TOS as opposed to using your smaller muscles. I found a lot the juniors I would toss would go behind me and instead of catching it looking like an idiot and feeling like an idiot, I would just make the kicker and I go, That's why so many players... I remember we said about 15 minutes ago, the Life Service under-utilized... I mean, part of that reason is because the kids have poor tosses and they toss on the way back, so now they're forced in to a kicker even if they don't wanna hit on, and so like I said, to taking that step, that absolutely fixed my... I remember after watching federal, what's he doing? So I started doing it and then I realized, wait a minute, safe all, I'm not getting all these...

0:43:14.5 Jack Broudy: And now, have you seen a down in the last five years, not dog takes a little step with the second, he never did that five years ago, or you watch... They, of course, they don't show it on TV because they don't know what to look for, but I mean, if you watch carefully and the doll fit moves about an inch and a half kind of like Aces used to, and it has that little moment and it's very key that I don't think... So many players, there was a guy named John Hayes, who was number one in new eland when played there, and I always thought he had the funniest thing, he was just riding with it, he would take this step and then he would go into the tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve and a lot of players would take that step, bring their feet together in a pinpoint, but that step... So many of the better players use it, and like I said, better, I might not use it, but he used it in warm up and Sanders doesn't use it, but he lifts his toe, so instead of stepping, he just puts his pedal to the metal as he tosses so there's very...

0:44:15.1 Jack Broudy: I think that's something I really wanna get across to you folks listening, because that is a real... What I'm showing you the buying me, is a real simple track to help someone with their toss, and if you can fix their toss, you could change the whole game, because if they're not afraid of the tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve, all of the side Alife on the tennis court is... They don't need to go to pickle ball, you know what I mean? There.

0:44:41.6 Dave Smith: There's so many ways that we strive, of course, as a beginner, if you're teaching the player to step, now that you're... At some point, you're gonna be to have backed off on the baseline so they don't footfall or deep some... To keep that foot down at some point, because you're a man that Toronto understand the principle of why they're stepping.

0:45:00.9 Jack Broudy: In, they can make it happen with their hips just without the stand in age, like I said, the way tennis is taught. And here's a big issue I have. I don't know, some cros still do this. Remember this one? We were kids down together at a... Well, that's the worst thing you can do. I mean, look at... Look at, look at Martina hingis. Don't worse the best player with the worst sir, and that you could see your shoulders were level like this as she came up, where you know, of course, all good servers have a slope, sir, when you go down together up together... Well, there you are your level, which is why Patrick Rafter had to leave the game because he and 140 miles an hour with this level of shoulder when everyone else was like this, so of course. What did he do to ARIS rotator cuff by 25, out of the game by 26. I should still be playing really... He's 40 like better. He has still go play. But he was out of the game at 26, just like a lot of other guys. An erotic was out at 26. We teach the car.

0:46:04.3 Dave Smith: I don't know if you use them more. Turn cartouche cart, we weren't in it. I can rotate over and you'll see this girl serving here is one of my JV girls at the kids can see how that cost Argos up first. Now, the shoulders, she'll pivot over and do that statement as drastic... I mean, when you got to Mars, that became far more pronounced, if you will, but this is just getting her to feel the sites, so all of our players had a kick tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve all or a player hit a slicer, and the only difference for us is once they learn to hit the spin is to toss more forward, lead over the left shoulder more so you're not facing the net, right, because I will destroy any server if you're casting the net and you have to hit the ball yet the only thing I can do is prone hinata, you cannot hit the slide 'cause it'll go too far, so we teach... Now we get them leading into their sir, getting that for velocity of their body coming forward, but still in the brushing aspect that you see in Lange, have girls that tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve over 100 miles and harder, eighth grade girls, ninth grade girls, because they learned the hip was spinors coton, a racket edge at lean edge first, getting that maximum rated speed coming across that ball, and then it's just how much across the ball or how much actual that motion is going to dictate how fast ability versus how much emphasis on spend, so it definitely...

0:47:37.1 Dave Smith: And the other great thing, and this, I think can sum this up, if you have a great second, sir, you're free to go after a big person, that's right, you're a horrible second tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve, you're going to be much more reticent and hitting your Peter card because you don't wanna have to do your second or...

0:47:57.2 Jack Broudy: I think most of you guys out there, most of your prose now, the standard line, you're only as good as your second, so... Absolutely. But yeah, these little things, like I said, learning from the beginning how to move both sides of your body, but what I noticed on the girl behind you, if you prove a little bit to decide what I noticed about her tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve... That is so right. And that you've done a good job with her. Now, did he use to state private to or is it mostly just your coach...

0:48:27.0 Dave Smith: I've worked with most of these players about privately and mostly within a team setting, or she's going to the rivers of her, but I do mostly group stuff and Largo example, 40 kids, the same Sarandon with them as a...

0:48:43.8 Jack Broudy: Watch what I notice here, what I noticed about here is a... When she lands, it's on her left foot, Ireland, when she comes through, watch it a contact where our hips are facing, watch The in right now, not right, the 45.

0:48:57.6 Dave Smith: 45, and then look at the impact, the high to bacon.

0:49:01.7 Jack Broudy: As the third thing I was gonna say, was they keep that foot back to try and hold their line up, they're trying to... They focused on the IT almost like slam dunk instead of over-rotating and trying to jump out of their skin to tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve... I'm just looking at some... I did us a couple of three virtual investment yesterday, and two of them are on the servo, I pull that fetter and joke, and it's amazing how well they do under... So they just do it all right. They don't jump out of their skin, it's very clean, maybe even a small emotion in this little girl, even smaller. It's just so simple. It's incredible. But they do everything right. You know what I mean? Their hips Lead to stroke, their arm comes out is... Is this joint here? In the elbow, right? It's very, very universal. But they don't do anything spectacular, just everything clean both, especially Jorgen fetter, very clean. A dull too. It's almost like if you watch it so emotion, you're like, What are they doing? It's not that big of a deal, it's almost like a clean throwing much...

0:50:09.1 Dave Smith: I would say the 90% of the recreational juniors lifted do more things that pollute a swing.

0:50:21.8 Jack Broudy: Of course, and we referee look at Roger here, and he looks like he's falling out of bed Eppes an.

0:50:29.7 Dave Smith: Activated... If you slow Roger down when he's loosening heard in a match, you'll see him mimic this dummy a little bit more of a highly tick... The truth actually, we got her down to a deeper... To me, bend and so her so picked up another four or five miles an hour just because she got more thrust forward. I talk about about three ways once learn to have the swipe correct, then we add three Elmer to the SER upwards or us forward to us and rotational trusts, bigger, turn backwards that we can still rotate, but not over-rotate as you mention. But if we can get them to rotate back more than they've got more available uncouth over-rotated, so greater rotational thrust upward to us going forward and up, as you see this young lady do forward and up, and then former and how much we toss about forward and go forward with those other two elements, upward and rotational, trust combine. So those three elements, when we start blending those three elements together, now we have a player that can hit a Spencer 120 miles an hour, 110 miles an hour, comes a girl, and still give to serving quite consistently.

0:51:47.6 Jack Broudy: Well, I guess the only difference really is a little bit semantics, 'cause I wouldn't say Up and forward because I hear that a lot, Fenland, everybody says that I use not many or terms like screw down into the tennis court and screw up out of the tennis court 'cause that encompasses everything that encompasses forward and out, as I like to use the language. That's why I can't wait till we get together. 'cause I think we're gonna get along fine. But I think our languages might start to melt because I really believe that up and forward, they're still both linear, but when you think in terms of screwing down and storing up, or when you do a double of a double conic where it's been in here and then it goes into big on here, but it also goes big down at the bottom, so it's a double conifa.

0:52:36.8 Dave Smith: Player can mold those three elements, and I love that I'm gonna use that phrase on coiled... Like a corkscrew. That's right. So you're going up, you're unranked Illini sometimes because... And again, every player is slightly different, and so sometimes we'll break it down into, Okay, let's just work on the forward thrust or let's just work on a bigger coil and just work on that element, and now let's put two of those together, and then three of those I would then add the phrase ukiyo, re-un-coiling a core group for a lot of these kids, hopefully are not including our wine bottles, but the idea of the core...

0:53:20.1 Jack Broudy: I used have to use linear terms sometimes is when you're working with 40 kids, come on... It's different than what I do when I work with a one-on-one player, I can say, Hey, get on the board and turn. Now you feel how your head just kinda comes straight down 'cause you're screwing down into the tennis court and then screw up out of the tennis court, you... So I stay away from where it's like forward enough, but that's what it is, it's forward and up for us, it is both of those, but why not use the term that's more illustrative of what it really is, which is around... It's around-ness as you come up, it's not really coming up and forward, it's a little rounder as you Come.

0:54:00.0 Dave Smith: On... Yeah, and you have to, as a great pro, has to be able to recognize terminology, analogies, phraseology, things that will actually connect with a player who... Another phrase may not... Some plans may have never seen the cops were in their life, I leave it or not, some players may never have seen... I use bowling phraseology, or.

0:54:30.3 Jack Broudy: I use a like... Well, I use a light bulb. I say, Imagine if I was Scrooge tennis court, how would that feel? And I take the top of their head sometimes and I go, Okay, you feel that now to not screw down into the tennis court without moving your head, just everything else screws down like that.

0:54:47.2 Dave Smith: And one of the things, when I leave at a talk and I started talking about hotels, because you're gonna have 30... Well, hopefully you've got a lot of kids. I've got 50 on Henderson.

0:55:00.8 Jack Broudy: Imagine an average coach White has about 30 to 40 kids try out the estate.

0:55:06.9 Dave Smith: And a lot of coaches cup, which I've never come in.

0:55:11.1 Jack Broudy: That's a part founders. That's a horrible thing.

0:55:15.8 Dave Smith: Well, it is, and the funniest thing is, it's not even informal, because you're telling kids, you're not good enough... That's right, I hate coaches say, Oh, they can come back next to your role, do you just embarrass them and then they're not good enough, you post in your seawater saying, Here's the team if you didn't make it, see it.

0:55:33.5 Jack Broudy: At your name, your name is Coach, you're supposed to coach them to be... Exactly, and if you get cofounder there, come see.

0:55:42.4 Dave Smith: Me, I let your line high performance programming of large players, large groups of players. I usually have anywhere, can I drill 30 to 40 players on three ports every day, and we use nine teach cards, we use two ball machines, we use a lot of patterns, and so one of the things that Coach has gotta realize when you're doing a large group setting, when you have a large number of players, you've gotta figure out how to connect with all of them, and so there's where your analogies become much more broad, and like you said, the light bulb, the tennis court grew, whether you're talking about a mirror, I use for the fallen about the near... Reflecting the ball like a beam of light, you got a swing, it to be light. Well, kids immediately, Oh, I'm just reflecting the ball, and then they start to learn how to receive a ball rather than hit a ball necessarily on a particular shot. So one of the things that we obviously do in a large group setting is finding ways that we can train everybody, everybody to become highly skilled, and I will challenge anybody to look at my number, 45 to 55 or whatever, and usually if they're that low, they just started play, because they will not stay a beginner in a week or two, they start learning these advantaged techniques right from the get-go.

0:57:15.6 Jack Broudy: And her successful coach... You don't say I coach beginners because when you coach beginners, that means all your players stay beginners.

0:57:22.5 Dave Smith: Yeah, and these are colonic pictures showing serves and back ends and Boland of players doing exactly what we're talking about, and this girl appears in the top left picture up here, about next to my head when the pot advisor... She was number 22 on my JV her freshman year or sophomore year, he was the number two player in state, it state twice, runner up plus...

0:57:54.0 Jack Broudy: Well, not only do you have happy kids, you have Happy parents too.

0:57:57.3 Dave Smith: Of course, the Paris really appreciate you spending time with their kids, and one of these players, a player on the top right, cassander, Twitter sister on the second of the bottom, saying from the top in a lab it back in, those two are identical twins, and I had him from their freshman as senior and Cassie top right players and coach at the banquet, we figured as Cally and I figure you spent 1400 hours Lotus. Over four years, 14, 00. No, it's probably true. And you think about it, you're with them two to three hours a day, or you see as in you're within 247, when you travel, you're with them in the off-season, however many hours are spending, you're maybe doing private lessons with some of them, and so I take that very importantly, and I know of the subject of serving, but serving and every other show tennis is about a training mechanism that allows the player to use their skills, and the amazing thing is these players may initially look like they can't walk into dominate same time. Sure, and when you start showing them these advanced foundation techniques is amazing, how many of them, and you give them the right practice regimen, the exercises, the drills, the...

0:59:20.2 Dave Smith: Just like you're talking about how to Cassano, just toss balls at them over and over and expect them to... It somehow to the create, become skilled players. It doesn't work that way. No, you cannot... If you're not correcting the aspect of stroke, they're not usually doing...

0:59:38.5 Jack Broudy: They're not like a habit, a bad habit just gets ingrained, like any happier you got.

0:59:45.6 Dave Smith: It makes exponentially harder to fix later on.

0:59:50.0 Jack Broudy: Well, before you, when I started ranting off and the more stones, tell a little more about...

0:59:54.8 Dave Smith: So coaches, you know how alone to anybody watching this Jack, if you're watching this program or reading our books or pulling up videos, you are my hero because you are trying to find ways that we have done to discover better ways to coach boys and girls, men and women to become high-skilled players using tools, using mechanisms, using everything to reach these kids and train them as well. I applaud you, I... And to listen to me or trying to buy this.

1:00:34.1 Jack Broudy: And you know what, to take it one step further, before we go to take a one step further, I always tell the parents are saying about their kids when they start complaining, Oh, my kids losing and by chokes and he loses the players better than I... First thing I do is I look at the parent, I go, You know what? Your kids are stuck, the fact that they get out there on that tennis tennis court where they're all... No place to hide. No Place To Hide. And they faced the big ag, the big age humiliation, every time they step on the tennis court, do you ought to salute that kid just rehabbing the waves to get out there on the tennis court in singles or doubles event... Bubbles is worse in some ways, because you got a partner that can roll their eyes and you double fall four times a row, so the fact that they're out there, and I say the same about the coach is the fact that they're actually trying and putting themselves out there to learn something new. They are used.

1:01:30.5 Dave Smith: To the I. Absolutely right. And the kid, when you start believing sincerely in that when we took over the girls golf team that my daughter and I are coaching now, the previous coach actually 12 players, why are you playing golf? You're never gonna be the IT all the time, and we hear it on the tennis tennis court and we need... Or do the opposite. I'll tell my last player, you're gonna be a state champion, it is well within what we train you, and if you've got the desire, you're going with heat and that, believe that sincere, whether it's teaching a slice, tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve, kick server, a bond, hybrids or you've gotta give them some person believe, and a lot of times parents forget to do that and they're their own...

1:02:14.9 Jack Broudy: Yeah, oh yeah. Well, listen, well, after you know what, we'll have to talk about that and the secret deal have to talk about the secrets to motivation. Absolutely, inspiration and motivation. Well, we'll do that again, and I think we're good on observed today. I think we've covered a lot of nice ground.

1:02:34.8 Dave Smith: I think everyone listening to this will discover through all of our series of these videos, we kind of go back and forth and we focus on server, you're gonna go back and forth because there's a lot of parallels between serving and volume and overheads and other things, and even the learning transition to becoming a highly skilled player has a correlation between the volume, the ground drug, just like the Serkis important TARS understand. It's not just one element that there is crossover between who I feel about that, right, the figure.

1:03:11.7 Jack Broudy: Into... It's a tennis tennis tennis tennis tennis serve, I don't care if it's a back end for end BOLI, it's all M and A even, I don't care what your ready position, it all emanates from mother form of movement that... I got the figure. So yeah, we do drift a little bit, probably 'cause of our age to the... We drift.

1:03:31.2 Dave Smith: Well, just to understand, in this picture, I pull this out of one of my academy... This was back before I was coaching his contents give red shirt J Bartlett, he's the founder of diadem sports. Really? And I trained him for four or five years, this young lady of Jessica Watts, a great protege who was nationally ranked, this young girl, the little red is the girl that you saw serving with the sermon. She was about 10. This girl right here is Stephanie, who initially was cut from a program, I started training or were 24ms, became a top college player at SUU, and so you see a lot of players here. Scott Adams, this guy right here was my assistant who trained at Helena Bethlem tic sands in Texas after we changed this program to a... Has the one from diadem started? Diadem is... You got you on there acting yet... Well, you see, I'm a master prof Dunlap. As you can see from my donation of the problems I had, AJ, I said, Ah, you're gonna have to match what I get as a master profile, and I have... My territory manager for Dunlop as a player, I coached back in the 80s, and so I have a familiarity with that coach en Cronkite shoes, but a very, very Yod, great player.

1:05:07.4 Dave Smith: Election, our program back in the 80s, Oasis committed to who I have been much... But I will say a diadem products are very, very good, and he sent me some of the string and I was like, This stuff plays great, I loved it, so I've got nothing bad to say other than... It's a great product as well. And there's a lot of control ICs out there. I'd never favored one. And the fact is.

1:05:34.8 Jack Broudy: I just got a call, I'm switching, I was with Wilson in the last 10, 15 years before that, and I just got a call, I'm gonna switch to vocal now. There you go. So, you know.

1:05:46.1 Dave Smith: There's a lot of great products out there, I love them all, I'm favoring one just because I've been with a lot as a master pro, they're going to um... I was on a premier at staff for prime, I was a master profiles on. And so I'd like you, we've kind of moved from product to product, but I always believe that there's a lot of good products out there, and you've gotta find what works best for you and try amounted.

1:06:14.8 Jack Broudy: Who gives you the most rackets for free. That was a... As always, my case, do I get shoes? And so he got the deal.

1:06:21.7 Dave Smith: Selling today's world, it was a little tougher for sure, but I found that there's a lot of wonderful string and a lot of wonderful rackets out there, and I love my dad of line, but I'll tell you a done a great job. At the pre-diadem and really favorite.

1:06:40.1 Jack Broudy: Yeah, I contacted me as well, they sent me... They sent me some string, which I haven't used yet, they sent me a half a dozen cancer balls, so... Yeah, no, they're out there. You're working it. I got my email and my phone call from them...

1:06:54.9 Dave Smith: There you go. Well, we promote them all. I've been with Dunaway all in, Jack is a lot of fun for me, and I think people are gonna see a lot more of you and I together, of trying to hone in on, Okay, this is the system that works... It's worked for me for 3500 students. It's worked for you through how many contested that you produce some amazing pros and amazing students, and so we're sharing what we know, and you and I, both products of many others, I use Isaac Newton famous phrase, if I have seen further is from standing on the shoulders of giants, and you and I have both been part of the US PGA prostate, all of people who have shared their knowledge with us... That's right, we're incorporating a lot of animation as well as the information that we share when we speak to groups, and so we're giving you a lot of.

1:07:54.5 Jack Broudy: Easier taking two lifetimes where the player coaches tips and drills and everything else we've been through. And making it into a system as opposed to just sporadic in active drills that we hope work and throw a spaghetti against the wall, maybe it'll stick... No, this is a system. We each have our system, and like I said, I look forward to melding them together one of these days on the tennis court, really having it out and having some fun, and because yeah, it's a system to where you plug in the player, they come out of... The person they come out of player...

1:08:31.3 Dave Smith: Absolutely, and the beauty of it is, I found that all of our players become highly skilled, there's not one that doesn't become how the skills... So obviously, it's not like I'm training or you're trading 100 players and only two of them become Pope, taking 95% of them or more are becoming hilarity. Bob, is everyone 6 foot 5, like sand query or.

1:08:58.5 Jack Broudy: Incredibly driven, like Stevie Johnson always has been since he was just a little kid. No, but everyone can hit a good ball, and that's what it's all about, if you wanna grow the game, chances have the funnel system like those academies where thousands of kids come in, hundreds leave with the arm problems in and then you squeak out in against... That's not really helping the game very much, as.

1:09:25.0 Dave Smith: If your program is successful, you're gonna have multitude of highly skilled players now the ones that, like you said, how the desire, the drive and desire and dedication, they're gonna rise to the very top, of course. But you should... You should not just have one or two or three players who emerge as top rank and then a big gap... Sure, it should not be that. All your players would be... And when we talk at a later date about inspiration, how can you make those lower levels become passive about tennis, now you've got players that have the potential to get to that high echelon or we'll have lots of stories because we will soak sakes. We will look forward to our next session with you in the series with Jack and Dave...

1:10:13.9 Jack Broudy: Dave? Nice as always, Soo.

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